Arwen's meanderings

Hi everyone and welcome to my dinghy cruising blog about my John Welsford designed 'navigator' named Arwen. Built over three years, Arwen was launched in August 2007. She is a standing lug yawl 14' 6" in length. This blog records our dinghy cruising voyages together around the coastal waters of SW England.
Arwen has an associated YouTube channel so visit www.YouTube.com/c/plymouthwelshboy to find our most recent cruises and click subscribe.
On this blog you will find posts about dinghy cruising locations, accounts of our voyages, maintenance tips and 'How to's' ranging from rigging standing lug sails and building galley boxes to using 'anchor buddies' and creating 'pilotage notes'. I hope you find something that inspires you to get out on the water in your boat. Drop us a comment and happy sailing.
Steve and Arwen

Friday, 21 March 2025

The Primus Lite+ stove

Forgive me Lord, for I have sinned....again. Not content with the tremendous sin of selling Arwen, I have now betrayed the faith; the holy bond with my forty year old trangia stove! I have sinned. Transgressed. Traitorised myself!

My Trangia stove, battered, dented, somewhat off colour, has accompanied me to the top of Kilimanjaro and Mt. Blanc. It has seen duty on countless mountain camps and walks across the British Isles. It has been part of Arwen's galley box set up for fifteen years dinghy cruising!

But, now as I transition from dinghy cruising to astronomy and astrophotography, I need a different set up. Trekking along stretches of coastline or across moorland to a secret destination for a night shoot, carrying lenses, cameras, star tracker and tripods, the weight of other equipment such as clothing, safety kit and cooking gear carried becomes an issue!  

The Trangia, as much as I adore it, is a little too much for what I now need. It will remain in a galley box and will be used when I do stargazing from the back of the car. 


So, I have sinned. I got a Primus Lite+ stove for my birthday present! 

Shock, horror, the world is ending! He has succumbed to the lure of the 'all in one' stove! 


So why have I done this?

Firstly, I wanted a lightweight stove system. Something integrated but light weight; giving fast boiling of water. Easy and quick to set up or put away. I often walk a fair way to get to a good location that I have scouted previously. After shooting, I may move location slightly and do it all again in the same session.  I want to be able to pack and unpack equipment quickly. Mobility, time efficiency and safety are the key things here.  

The Primus Lite+ meets these requirements. 

The stove is an integrated 'all in one gas' design; small pack size and a lightweight 400gs. The pot is 0.5l capacity and its a one-person stove set up. On my initial tests out in a windy garden, my stove boiled water in 2' 30"s.  The heat exchanger affair at the base of the pot is clever. Apparently it distributes the heat evenly across the base of the pot which results in a faster boil and the use of far less gas. 

Fuel efficient and a smart design, it is built of high quality materials. Typical Primus quality! 

The anodised pot has an integrated pouring spout and built in heat exchanger at the base. The lid is plastic and has a strainer inbuilt. This also allows steam to escape as water boils. Stepped, the lid is easy to remove to check the water (or noodles!) Its actual function is, a small mug or bowl! 

Insulated by a cork lined fabric sleeve which closes with velcro, the pot is easy to handle when removing it from the burner assembly. Even when the contents inside are boiling, this insulated sleeve protects your hands. A brilliantly effective idea. The handle is a sturdy, secure, strap affair which can be folded over the top of the lid to store everything safely inside the pot (or used to hang it using the supplied cord loop, from a convenient branch). Attached to the handle are three little screw pins, more about these later. 

The 0.5lt anodised pot with integrated heat exchanger and the clever triangular attachment system 

The burner unit screws into a gas canister. Triangular in shape, with piezo ignition, its a laminar flow burner giving a 1500w flame. The piezo ignition works well, and the large wire handle to turn the gas on and off gives good simmer control as well.  Two presses of the piezo ignition system and instant flame. The triangular joint connection to the pot is ingenious and so simple to use. The pot attaches and detaches with ease. What I couldn't work out was whether to have the full pot already attached and then light the stove or light the stove first and then attach the pot. I tried both ways with no problem at all, but I think I preferred the light first approach. 

Frankly, the whole set up is low profile, with a low centre of gravity. Stable, safe; helped by the included fold out triangular base leg system that attaches to the gas canister.  Cool down time, by the way, was around ten minutes but that will depend on the conditions on the night won't it?

What about those three pins?  Well, they screw into the three holes on the burner unit. You can then use a bigger pot on the stove. Ideal, if like me, you might be tempted on a longer night out to do a 'boil in the bag' camping meal. I can use one of my very lightweight trangia pots for this. Something I couldn't do on the 'Jetboil Flash', which was the other stove system I looked at. 

The burner head unit and those three pins that can be screwed in to support larger pans if needed

So what don't I like about it after testing it a few times in the garden? 

Not much actually. And that's a rare thing as I'm not that easily pleased when it comes to outdoor gear.  

Those pins on the attached handle make it difficult to fold the handle over the pot for secure storage. They scratch the mug lid as well.  When separating the burner unit from the pot, there isn't much to grab hold of which isn't hot - so you have to hold the gas cylinder and twist. As I said, it separates very easily so that doesn't seem to be a problem in reality. 

In conclusion, I like the portability and lightweightness of the stove. Everything including a 100g gas cylinder packs down into the pot. Materials are sturdy; the design is robust, thoughtful and modern. Its certainly efficient in boiling water even in windy conditions. Set up time is literally 30 seconds max - take things out of the pot, screw the burner and gas cartridge together; fill the pot, put it on top and light! Primus have an outstanding reputation - a proven track record in good outdoor gear design, reliability and quality.  build quality seems excellent although I haven't tested it for a few months have I! I will do a follow up post script after a summer using it.  Is it a gourmet stove? No! Boil a fast cuppa; buy the coffee press and fresh delicious smelling coffee on tap. Head up some noodles and sauce; possibly tiny amount of pasta or rice. Cuppa soups a definite!  Porridge in the early morning. Use those little pins and a bigger pan - then definitely a boil in the bag meal no problem. 

Some of you may say it is overkill. A flask of tea is fine. But I say to you, imagine this - sat on a cliff, watching the milky way pass overhead, hearing your DSLR clicking away and in the background, the quite reassuring, comforting roar of a primus lite+; the bubbling of hot water and then a really HOT cuppa or stomach warming noodles! Nectar of the Gods. 

Perfection! 

Meanwhile, my faithfully, much adored and treasured Trangia will still be used - in its galley box - out the back of the car. I could never fully transfer my stove allegiance. Way too many memories to do that! 


And finally, if you are a dinghy cruiser - is it boat safe? 

I could use this stove in Arwen's existing galley box with minimal problems. Put the canister onto the three legged base for stability and it would fit within the cooking area of the box. Build a little raised 'slot-in' platform with a hole the size of the canister and that would be even better. However, it is a mite taller than my Trangia and far narrower at the base even with the extension legs. In rolly weather at anchor, I wouldn't be as confident about using it as I would with my proven Trangia. I'd fear it would tip or slosh contents about, even with the lid on. 

Would I use its hanging loop and suspend it from the boom? No is my initial reaction. Well, I'm not sure. Certainly the side of the pot hasn't felt hot when I have used it; there doesn't seem to be much heat escaping from the base. But would it pendulum? How secure is the top lid? Not sure! In saying that I have seen single handed yacht racers using a jet boil stove on a suspended affair in their cockpits in very rough seas.  One way around it is to have a gimballed bracket to hold it - not beyond the inventiveness of many dinghy cruisers I know. I'm sure I have seen a gimbal arrangement for a jetboil stove somewhere. At IKEA I once saw an aluminium tall, handled cutlery basket drainer and at the time I thought "I wonder if you could gimbal that for........"

In the past I have seen battle hardened alpine mountaineers use a similar stove set up suspended in their tents during bad weather - not something I'd do, recommend or condone. Bonkers in my opinion but there we are. Some people are risk takers; some of us risk adverse! 

Notes: 

Copyright on photos above - Peak Mountaineering

I found two review sites useful when researching what stove to buy: 

https://www.peakmountaineering.com/primus-lite-plus-stove-review/

https://outdoorsmagic.com/article/primus-lite-plus-stove-system-review/

Here is the stove in action: 




Sunday, 23 February 2025

Some recent videos which have Welsford navigators in them

 Feeling miserable still, here in the northern hemisphere? Spring not coming quick enough? Sailing season still seems far away? 

Although Arwen will be heading to new waters soon - here are some videos of other welsford navigators in action from 2024/25. I am very privileged to know many of these sailors and navigator boats through regular interactions on forums, facebook and facebook messenger over the years. Great people all and lovely boats. Exactly how the designer envisaged them I suspect. Anyway, enjoy and remember, sailing season for you is almost here at last. 😄







Monday, 3 February 2025

Our beloved Motovespa 125 super 'Stacey'


Well, we have finally made the decision. It is time for Stacey to go to a new home where she will be loved as much as we loved her, but taken out and let loose more frequently. It is painful as this was a father/son restoration project and she gave us much pleasure, fun and stories to tell. But life marches on and priorities and needs change. So as we move to a new chapter in our lives, Stacey needs to do the same.


For sale much loved Douglas Vespa small frame Motovespa 125cc super model year 1971 and first registered July 1972  registration ******K.

762M***** on engine     Vin frame prefix number 762C***** on frame. Research on various vespa websites shows it to be a Motovespa 125 super 1965 - 68 although I cannot guarantee that this is accurate.

Kick start, two stroke, pre-mix, petrol and 4 speed manual gear. Tax exempt. MOT new to march 2018. Was SORN during 2017 when son was away for year.

Ready to ride with approx 12,000 on clock; speedo is in mph. Original mileage when bought was 10,200.  V5 and original registration document from 1971 present (matching chassis and engine numbers); previous MOT’s and service history present whilst in our ownership. Has been stored in garage since we have owned it and ridden once per month.  During part of 2017, when SORN'd, engine has been turned over every fortnight for several minutes each time since then. Normally starts on third kick.  

Restored from old barn find as father/teenage son project, son is now away from home and saving for car; and so this is a ‘reluctant’ sale.  Have receipts for most items during resto which we can show you. Many original features remain.

Restoration work included:

·        Strip down to bare metal and rust removal; Primer and new paint job – metallic burgundy red - completed by professional car customising garage locally



·        New 10 inch white wall tyres and inner tubes  – original rims



·        New floor panel and floor runner kit

·        Engine strip down and replaced bearings, seals, gasket, new piston. Had previous malossi cylinder headset conversion at some stage and also a CDI conversion by previous owner.


·        New shock absorbers front and rear

·        new speedo cables and gearing (installed by local scooter expert)

·        New fuel tap; petrol tank cleaned out

·        New FACO ET3 banana exhaust and air filter


·        New carb dell'orto SHBC 19/19 and  intake manifold

·        New handlebar clutch and brake levers

·        New wiring loom inserted by local scooter expert along with new headlight glass; new rear brake light holder and gasket

·        New brake shoes front and rear

Original features, as far as we know - speedo, horn, light switch box, rims and hubs, spare wheel holder, most of engine. Please note: we were new to vespa scooters and so kept as much of the original features of scooter that we bought. We cannot vouch that what we bought was all original – please see note below about toolbox for example.

Receipts for most of the restored parts all from Allstyles, Beedspeed, AJ Sutton and SIP
People should remember engine may need little more running in still.

Runs perfectly – starts on third kick normally. Engine and carb needs slight tuning – Can see videos on YouTube....search motovespa 125 super or search ‘plymouthwelshboy’ and download playlist.


Notes:

We have tried to describe ‘Stacey’ in as much detail as possible. In good faith please note the following:
1. Minor cosmetic scratches on engine panel.....it fell off once! See photos/video; also slight scratches on toolbox.
2. Being naïve, we had the parts and frame sandblasted and then powder coated…that was before we realised or managed to get plugged into the local scooter scene and small frames Vespa forum
3. Large scratch on bottom of rear front mudguard where bolt on front leg shield once caught it

4. Big note.....when we restored it we didn't know anything about scooters and so didn't realise that bottom of leg shield had small part cut out by previous owner....see one of the photos. May need piece welded back in. We have gone on journeys of 150 miles in a day. It has never been a problem. The ‘hole’ is currently covered with black duct tape which has held for four years!  The back of the hole does have cross piece in it which maintains structural integrity – see photo



5. The right hand throttle mount on headset broke when an over eager observer leaned against scooter heavily and knocked it over. We had local engineering company cut and bolt in new aluminium plate. Never been a problem, headset fine and throttle and brake works perfectly. However some paint and powder coating lost on edge – see photo

7. The toolbox was fitted at later stage by previous owner and isn't actually the correct motovespa toolbox.....again, we didn't know until much later after the restoration was complete. 
8. Light switch box keeps coming loose and is held on with tape – see photo
9. Crack in paintwork on one part of floor panel  - see photo; also minor paint flakes missing on a floor panel nut - see photo 
10. we don’t have a key for the steering lock; the person we bought it from didn’t have it either

We have tried to be completely honest via description, photographs and video clips. But if we can help in any other way, please ask. Thank you for your time and interest. ‘Stacey’ provides a great ride, is much loved and we part with her reluctantly. Looking for an owner who can tune her, restore her further and treasure her as much as we have. We also have a box of spare bits and pieces to go with her along with some basic tools - spark plug key; spanners for loosening front fork; some cable pullers etc.





If you are interested in buying her please drop me a comment below or via facebook or via my Youtube site (search Arwen's meanderings) and I will contact you regarding price etc.

UK buyers only and must arrange own collection please. Payment by PayPal transfer in to my account. Please bring photo ID (drivers licence or passport with two paper utility bills showing address (mobile phone bills not accepted).

I don’t accept any returns. If you would like to arrange a time to see it, please contact me but I would appreciate no time wasters or tyre kickers – please only visit if you are seriously considering buying her – thanks. I can show scooter running but will not be able to run it up and down the road as my CBT has just expired. Please don't ask to ride it yourself, in that way, I won't cause offence when I say no and neither you or the scooter will run the risk of accidental damage out on the road! The MOT and videos above show it works and runs well and we have given an honest and fair description.

Thanks for your interest. I will be advertising her on Facebook and Gumtree in the next couple of weeks. Have a good week. Take care.