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Hi everyone and welcome to my dinghy cruising blog about my John Welsford designed 'navigator' named Arwen. Built over three years, Arwen was launched in August 2007. She is a standing lug yawl 14' 6" in length. This blog records our dinghy cruising voyages together around the coastal waters of SW England between 2009 and 2025.
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Showing posts with label bunk supports. Show all posts
Showing posts with label bunk supports. Show all posts

Thursday, 21 October 2021

How do you configure a new boat trailer?

 Collective wisdom of hive mind please. And be kind please! Remember 'we don't know what we don't know!' 😁

 

Arwen is on her new trailer and I have to decide what to do with these bunk supports to get her to sit correctly and safely. The entire boat weight during trailering will be all on the keel rollers.

So I'm guessing these bunks just help stop the boat tipping one way or the other? Should they also be arranged to stop lateral movement of the hull when on the trailer as well (even though she will be tied on securely midships and at bow)? 😕

With no engineering nous whatsoever, how should I best orientate these bunk supports?






1. as they are, running length ways or turning them 90 degrees so that they run width ways across the hull bottom? And a) if width ways...with the post lean in towards the skeg or outwards towards next plank chine? And b) the actual bunk beam with its pivot bolt head  facing forward or facing the stern?

2. keeping them running along length of hull but moving them either inwards or outwards? And again, if so, a) leaning inwards..or leaning outwards? And b) the bunk pivot bolt head facing inwards or outwards?

3. moving the entire bunk position so that it is clamped to the outer part of the trailer 'A' frame near the mudguard and so that it runs lengthways along the hull and goes under the next plank up, just past the chine join with the hull bottom boards?

4. Are they correct length if they aren't bearing much weight?

5. Are there any other options with the configuration I have missed?


Similarly, with the keel rollers, I need to move the one with the side rollers as well - back to its original position at the very rear of the trailer - because thats where it belongs. But, do I need to (A) put an extra roller under the wider centre case area to support the centreboard when travelling - or if I have winched up the centreboard tightly into its case and secured it - (B) do I need to support it beneath at all?


As always, having only ever owned one boat trailer before, I clearly have no idea!

Any help and guidance much appreciated. The trailer manufacturers were very helpful but they did warn me that some fiddling around would be needed to get Arwen secure on the trailer given her bottom configuration.

Sail trimming and trailer setting up - dark arts - dark arts indeed 😕😁

UPDATE: 

After asking for advice on two dinghy cruising Facebook forums, I gained the following useful advice

1. move the bunk supports outwards and also forwards so that they go under the bulkhead at the rear of the centreboard case

2. if possible angle them so that they go up to the next plank up and face slightly inwards - this way they will act as lateral supports

3. leave a 2mm gap between each support and the hull side

4. if possible get longer supports - 750mm and two extra vertical supports and then set up as above

5. try to turn down or tape the ends so that they don't dig into the hull as the boat comes onto the trailer

6. wrap them in foam and also some carpet off cuts

One or two people suggested rotating them 90 degrees and placing them under a bulkhead area in the boat. this was a minority suggestion. The overwhelming view was to lengthen them and add additional uprights forward. 

UPDATE 2:

Well when we pushed Arwen along her rollers - the hull hit the mudguards as we expected. A phone call to Admiral trailers and plenty of after sale care reassurance. They always expect issues with every boat trailer outside of a specific class design. They were expecting that there might be an issue but weren't sure. 

Two solutions were proffered with a favoured one.

A) spacer bars under each of the keel rollers

B) make up a three layer, 40mm thick, galvanised spacer bar to rest across the top of the axle. The whole trailer frame sits on the axle top - so it and the boat would be raised up by 40mm. 

B is the favoured method. Fortunately a neighbour may be able to help. He restores old minis and VW campers and has axle props, trolley jacks and a very impressive tool chest of all sorts of sockets and tools. All being well, if I can persuade him to help, we lift up the main trailer frame with the boat still on it and put it on axles prop stands. We then drop the axle, slide in the spacers and with new U clamps and bolts, clamp it all back together again. The idea is the frame will sit 40mm higher on the axle, giving sufficient clearance over the mudguards.  

Watch this space! 😄😟😀